Sunday, March 15, 2009

Response to a post attacking me over Islam

I allow most comments to post, even those attacking me, so I posted the one, below. I thought it worth publishing here, and commenting on it, afterwards. Note the gentlemen, who knows everything about America except how to spell it, doesn’t sign his name, and has to resort to profanity to make his points. ~Bob


Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "I'm Tired": I'm not sure what the name is of the person who wrote this article, because I simply found it sitting in my inbox and clicked on the link to the blog so I could leave a comment. So whoever you are, this is for you. You are a shit.Your article has somehow managed to encapsulate everything that is wrong with your odious, hate-infested, failed state of Amerika. The only success you have achieved is to have proven to people like me that the Ugly Amerikan isn't just a harsh stereotype, but all too disturbingly true. It just shocks me that people like you have the nerve to feign pride in a country that, since its birth, has risen on the subjugation of weaker people and left a curse wherever it has cast its greedy, bloodthirsty attention. Let's skip past your first paragraph, which was basically just you congratulating yourself. Let's also dismiss your childish comparisons with other countries; there is no nation in the world, throughout history, that has relied so much on a combination of ethnic cleansing and treachery to build its foundations as the United States of Amerika. Your country was 'founded' when a small group of slave-holding aristocrats decided that they wanted to reap all the economic advantages of their plantations for themselves, without paying any fees to their British overlords. The only statesman who opposed this was Thomas Paine, which was why he was shut out from the corridors of power and consigned to oblivion. With him died the only true spirit of 'free' Amerika that ever existed. Hmm, now there's a history to be proud of. When a US President goes on national TV and apologises for the very way in which the country was born, then you can start to cast your ignorant judgement upon other, more honest nations. Of course, no Amerikan rant can be complete without some ugly hate speech aimed at Muslims, and true to the cliche, here you are to display your sheltered stupidity. Tell me, where in the Qur'an does it actually speak of honour killings? Presumably, having made such claims in your little speech, you must have researched the matter first, right? Of course you did. So where does the Qur'an instruct Muslims to kill their girls for going to school, and all the other Hollywood-sponsored drivel that you have conjured up? Can you provide the chapter and the verse? can't can you, you moron. Those cases that you cite are cases of sheer ignorance, which have no basis in Islamic doctrine. Unlike, of course, the US policy of torturing civilians, which is very much a part of Amerikan military doctrine. But surprisingly, you didn't touch on that. Who knows, maybe your military career came off the back of applying the same noble techniques upon the 'gooks' in Vietnam, hence your reluctance to criticise it.All your vitriol about Democrats and other internal political issues means nothing to me; you Amerikans are so cute, pretending that the outside world gives a shit about Palin, or Obama, or any of the other scumbags that walk around in Washington, pretending that their country has something good to offer to the world. It doesn't.Perhaps the most galling aspect of your repulsive, hypocritical tirade is what you had to say in an attempt to defend the bestial behaviour of your soldiers across the world. Let me explain something to you, dickhead. If there is a big bag in a room, bursting at the seams with something, and a couple of cockroaches eventually crawl out of it, then it is a pretty safe bet that the bag is full of cockroaches. The few, sporadic reports that came out of Iraq and Afghanistan, documenting the human rights violations carried out by US 'soldiers', were not isolated incidents; they were simply the only ones that somehow made it to press. For all we know, as I'm typing, there is another 15 year old girl out there being gang raped and set on fire by the same US 'soldiers' who murdered her family minutes earlier; or maybe at this exact moment there is another convoy of US 'soldiers' who, in reaction to hearing the firing of bullets, are currently shooting at everything in sight and murdering any unarmed civilians they see. Both of these have happened in reality, and I do not doubt that they will happen again. In fact, why even look at the horror that you monsters inflict on others? There have been cases of female Amerikan soldiers dying of dehydration out in Iraq...want to know why? Because they avoid drinking water in fear that if they have to go to the toilet at night, they will be caught and raped by their comrades. I read that report over a year ago, and it made me physically sick. So when I read accounts of Amerikan soldiers handing out sweets from their tanks to Iraqi kids so that those starving children will act as human shields in the event of an insurgent attack, I don't feel too much surprise nowadays. The only thing that surprises me are idiots like you, who pretend that there is an iota of dignity or honour in the armed forces of your filthy, depraved country. In the immediate wake of the World Trade Centre attacks, I watched with many across the world and felt a genuine pang of upset for the, as I read daily reports about the kind of atrocities that your subhuman comrades inflict on innocent, God-fearing people, I feel only joy when I hear about random high-school shootings that remove just a few more Amerikan lives from this planet. That is what people like you have done to me, and most probably done to many others in the world. I know that one day I will be cured of this bloodlust that exists within me, but for you and your kind, I can only hope that you will find the pain you have inflicted on others visited back upon you, if not in this life then at least the next.And 'hoo-rah' to that.

I have indeed read quite a bit about Islam, the Qur’an and the Hadiths (the traditions of the Prophet—Peace be upon Him) which are considered holy works without which one cannot understand the Qur’an. And I have not found anything about honor killing or genital mutilation of young girls in those works. (Though there is support for child marriage in Islam under Shari’a law, as the hadiths say Muhammad married his youngest wife at 6, consummated the marriage when she was 9.) But there is mush of hate, conquest, and the subjugation of women that leads to these outrages. Google “honor killing” and see how many Presbyterians are murdering their female family members over the family’s “honor.”

That there are hundreds of millions of peaceful Muslims who want to live in peace is certainly true, just as there were millions of peaceful Germans and Japanese in 1938 who wanted to live in peace. Given that they do not have to power or authority of the haters, that is irrelevant, just as it was in 1938. I feel bad for them, living under the governments and Shari’a law they do. If any place needs separation of church (mosque) and state, it is the Islamic countries. Unfortunately, Islam is both a religion and a political system—they are inseparable—and it’s every Muslim’s duty to impose Islam & Shari’a on the rest of us, by force if necessary.

And, yes there are violent parts of the old testament--but Christians and Jews are not acting on them every day.

Among the books on Islam I’ve read and recommend:

No god but God: The Origins, Evolution, and Future of Islam by Reza Aslan. A pro-Islam book. Aslan is a scholar from Iran, so bends a little to the Shi’a side of Islam’s internal Jihad.

Sowing the Wind: The Seeds of Conflict in the Middle East by John Keay

The Sword of the Prophet by Serge Trifkovic

The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam and the Crusades by Robert Spencer

A Concise History of the Crusades by Thomas F. Madden

The below quotes are from the Qur’an. Note that the number of the Surah will vary with the translation. And the translation itself may vary. There are modern, politically-correct translations that moderate the comments, for example changing beat your wives to chastise them.

Qur’an Quotes

"Slay them wherever you find them...Idolatry is worse than carnage...Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God's religion reigns supreme." (Surah 2:190-)

"Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it." (Surah 2:216)

"Men are tempted [in this life] by the lure of women...far better is the return of God. Say: 'Shall I tell you of better things than these, with which the righteous shall be rewarded by their Lord? Theirs shall be gardens watered by running streams, where they shall dwell for ever: wives of perfect chastity..." (Surah 3:14, 15)

"The only true faith in God's sight is Islam." (Surah 3:19)

"Believers, do not make friends with any but your own people...They desire nothing but your ruin....You believe in the entire Book...When they meet you they say: 'We, too, are believers.' But when alone, they bite their finger-tips with rage." (Surah 3:118, 119)

"If you should die or be slain in the cause of God, His forgiveness and His mercy would surely be better than all the riches..." (Surah 3:156-)

"To those that declare: 'God has commanded us to believe no apostle unless he brings down fire to consume an offering,' say: 'Other apostles before me [Muhammad] have come to you with veritable signs and worked the miracle you asked for...If they reject you [Muhammad], other apostles have been rejected before you..." (Surah 3:183-)

"If you wish to replace a wife with another, do not take from her the dowry you have given her..." (Surah 4:20)

"The Jews and Christians say: 'We are the children of God and His loved ones.' Say: 'Why then does He punish you for your sins?" (Surah 5:18)

"Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51)

"The God will say: 'Jesus, son of Mary, did you ever say to mankind 'Worship me and my mother as gods besides God?' 'Glory to You, 'he will answer, 'how could I ever say that to which I have no right?" (Surah 5:114-)

"Believers, when you encounter the infidels on the march, do not turn your backs to them in flight. If anyone on that day turns his back to them, except it be for tactical reasons...he shall incur the wrath of God and Hell shall be his home..." (Surah 8:12-)

"Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Surah 8:36-)

"If you fear treachery from any of your allies, you may fairly retaliate by breaking off your treaty with them." (Surah 8:51-)

"...make war on the leaders of unbelief...Make war on them: God will chastise them at your hands and humble them. He will grant you victory over them..." (Surah 9:12-)

"It ill becomes the idolaters [non-Muslims] to visit the mosques of God..." (Surah 9:17)

"Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians]...until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." (Surah 9:27-)

"It is He who has sent forth His apostle with guidance and the true Faith [Islam] to make it triumphant over all religions, however much the idolaters [non-Muslims] may dislike it." (Surah 9:31-)

"If you do not fight, He will punish you sternly, and replace you by other men." (Surah 9:37-)

"Prophet make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home." (Surah 9:73)

"Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them." (Surah 9:121-)

"Say: 'Praise be to God who has never begotten a son; who has no partner in His Kingdom..." (Surah 17:111)

"Fight for the cause of God with the devotion due to Him...He has given you the name of Muslims..." (Surah 22:78-)

“Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly." -- Qur'an Surah 8:60


  1. Wow, what a rant. I guess all those "scumbags that walk around in Washington" have their work cut out for them, if they want guys like this "Amerika"-hater to like us. I smell a Sean Penn good-will junket heading his way.

    Come to think of it, I wonder how Sean Penn spells "America".

  2. The anonymous posting to your "I'm tired" saddens me. First he is gutless, second, I bet the anti-American (amerikan) lives here in the US. I bet he enjoys all our privileges as he hates America, would never consider taking a side on anything or fight for it because he would go on record, not his hidden self, nor would he research things to ascertain the facts. In his mind he knows all. The really sad thing is he believes our government was founded by self serving men. That could not be further from the truth. If those men were in our government today, we would not have the problems we are facing. These men had forethought, knowledge, education, and compassion. Our leaders today are self serving. Love America and her rights of freedom, even when anti-amerikans speak!!!!

  3. Wow, sounds like he maybe had a bad childhood.

    Keep on keepin' on Jarhead.

  4. I don't suppose you'd consider running for President? If not, do you think Old Jarhead supporters could rally around another fellow traveller? I just found your "I'm Tired" and it just about perfectly summed up my concerns about the present state of our nation. I recently watched selections from Time's "World At War" series (documentary clips from World War II) and it was driven home to me, most poignantly, how far we have strayed in just a short sixty years from the values that made this nation great. How sad. I wonder if we will ever again be "the Shining City on a Hill" that President Reagan spoke so eloquently about.

  5. Well! I certainly stumbled upon a mele here! If you can take one more comment - I say Amen (to your rant) and have a big huge question mark for the "Anonymous Ranter". I agree, also, that generally the uneducated, un-informed, self-serving population has to base their argument(s) in profanity rather than facts.

  6. Dear Old Jar head: I was e-mailed you commits of why you are tired. I just turned 64 in February and I understand. What can just a aveage American like me do to help my country. That is what I am tired of. My efforts seem to not matter. My vote seems to not matter. That is what I am tired of. Any suggestion beside just putting my head in the sand! Signed Love my County.

  7. My first reaction on reading this response from the anonymous poster, was "I can't believe Bob even acknowledged or responded back to it." But, the more I thought about it, I realized that how it was handled was exactly how it should have been. Yes, here in America, we do have freedom of speech! We can speak and write our opinions and even through it would have been quite easy to disregard the poster's nasty view of our great nation, by posting it the readers of this blog can understand the type of maniacal people we are up against. If the individual was indeed resolvent and steadfast in his view he would have readily signed his name to his rants. Hiding behind the anonymity of the internet is the coward's way. I can only hope this individual was writing from afar. Our American way of life with its numerous benefits and privileges, should be available for those who support and defend - not for those who profit from and slander.

  8. That tirade is almost beyond belief. Did you notice that aside from profanities, the author didn't really say anything except that he hates America.

    And American female soldiers dying of dehydration because they are scared to go to the bathroom at night?? And handing out candy so that Iraqi kids will be human shields for them??? And then to pronounce that America is "hate-infested' - this single country that helps more people across the world than all other nations combined. Do you know where this ignorant garbage comes from? It comes from Muslim leaders who don't want the cycle of hate to ever end. They make it up and brainwash children in the schools, so that when they become adults, they will regurgitate it later.

    I wonder what this person really hates about America? It sounds like the root issue is that in America people who work hard can succeed, and people who don't work hard can actually fail. I guess he wants a world where no one can succeed and no one can fail. A place where everyone lives in a sort of mediocre state like some kind of zombie. Sounds like the current crop of democrats to me.

    About 99% of the world envies the fact that in America everyone is born with the same rights and opportunities, but only those who work the hardest and the smartest will be rewarded.

    Only a tiny fraction of brainwashed Muslims harbor hate against this concept.

  9. Sounds as if Anonymous is yet another of the liberal left, kool-aid drinking, America haters. I hope he remembers that if he lived in Irag/Iran/Afghanistan and made disparaging remarks about Islam, he would be Headless Anonymous. ♥ ∞

  10. Sir, it's because of veterans like you that I serve in the military. I want so much to make a difference in this world. Unfortunately it would seem that I cannot make a difference in this country. I will continue to serve in the armed forces until I physically unable to do so, or feel that I have paid for my Bill of Rights. After that, I feel I will need to leave this once great country. Thank you for your words of insight. Semper Fi.

  11. I too am tired. Because I am tired I try to get to the root of things, the real reasons, and what moves men and women, for when we are tired, our time is truly short, and there is work to do. The "I'm Tired" writings and the "response" are boiled down to this. The first looks at the reward of charachter, the other speaks lies about charachter supposing that charachter produces punishment, and then goes on to hand it out. The coldness of the response to I'm Tired does not have to be disected to show its cold heart. Why waste our moments thinking about lies. Thank God he has shown us his heart in his son, the only hope in this selfish, deluded world as each of us choose to be "Jesus with skin on" for others. May this one who so easily repeats lies out loud, be humbled hard enough, yet gentle enough for them to turn.

  12. Tired? Well, I think you're doing a great job. I wish my father would post his opinion online. He knows so much, but devalues what he understands. Someday I hope he'll change.

    Thank you for speaking out.

    Wann do something? Well, send a tea-bag to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue to arrive on 1 April. That'll send a message.

    You're not alone!

    On a positive note I'm putting together a national fast. Folks on 9/11 volunteer to go without food. Then they donate the money they would have spent to the charity of their choice. If you're interested in helping, let me know: (jacob *at*

    Thanks for letting me have some good reading!

  13. What a laughable (and yet disturbing) rant (and line of thinking) by "Anonymous". This person writes as if he/she has some higher educated, armed with the "real story", the "real facts" from history and current events all over the world (wow! the ability to be in so many places at once! that's impressive! the way, how do you know your sources are so reliable? oh but they are I'm sure.). In one breath Anonymous talks of human rights violations and atrocities with such disgust, but admits to indiscriminate "blood-lust" for "Amerikans" (young, innocent high school students included, correct?). Anything slightly off-- dare I say, hypocritical-- with this thought process???

    I also find it commical how this individual thinks Americans are "cute in our belief that the rest of the world cares about Palin, Obama, etc...." Where did Jarhead express this sentiment? I must have missed that. Or was that just an angry sidenote? Speaking for myself (and I would venture many others), I could care less... you are far too excited about yourself.

    This all-knowing person is ready to "encapsulate" all Americans in repsonse to a blog posting. This person speaks with such moral authority (again, impressive!), yet with every twisted and angry word, makes it undeniably obvious: You are is the small-minded ignorance you claim to hate.

    Get a clue. (a little vitamin D and psychotropic medication wouldn't hurt either.)

  14. I'm Tired.... I'm tired of Obama's American Communism.

  15. The person attacking The Old Jarhead over Islam wrote:

    "And I have not found anything about honor killing or genital mutilation of young girls in those works"

    Let me be brief about this.


    They do it, and they claim it's their religious law. Makes absolutely no difference if YOU have not found any evidence that it is supported by the writing of Islam.

  16. If anyone decides to start a REVOLUTION, which in time is going to end up happening due to the idiot SOCIALIST we have running our country. Please sign me up for I will swear to defend our country against both foreign and domestic. What fools there our this country. Whatever happened to working for what you want in life? As for the religious extremist out there please do all of us Infidels a favor. Just blow yourselves up and let's call it a day!

  17. I salute you, Bob, for your patience with some of these fools who bark back at you, and particularly for the America haters. I too am an old Vietnam vet, a retired Army grunt officer, born and raised in San Diego, CA surrounded by swabbies and jarheads. I love them all, as much as I really give them all a tough time. I am nearly 65 and, thank the Lord, still going strong. I gave a little flesh in VN and don't regret any of it, except, of course, leaving it in a worse state than it was when we got there. I have always been willing to do it again. I actually tried to go back on active duty, but, hey, they had no need for an old duffer. I am still willing to fight for the finest country in the world, but I am losing a tad bit of faith in what we really should be standing for. We would all have to admit that it "ain't what it used to be. I am all for change, but I am not at all sure that the changes that we will be seeing and have already seen are the direction we should be headed. It is very scary. Semper Fi, my friend. John McClarren

  18. I just finished reading "I'm Tired". I also read the comment posted by "anonymous". I agree with another comment that I'll bet this moron lives in this country and is one of the "hate-America-first" crowd. I can't imagine he could be that mouthy and profane in any other country without being charged with a hate crime or flogged in the local soccer stadium.
    I enjoy your blog and glad I found it. By the way, thanks for your service to this great country Marine. Semper Fi.

    USN 1961-67
    USS Essex 1964-65

  19. I find the man who left the blog about "Amerika" to one of the typical uneducated, hate filled type of person that has absolutly no idea of what he's talking about. He is a total waste of human skin. How you like that "COMRAD?"