Here’s the solution to closing Gitmo—or not.
Present a bill to the Congress. If they vote yes, and Gitmo closes, one or more of the terrorists will be placed in a halfway house at government expense, within five miles of the home of every Senator and Congressmen who votes “yes.” If they vote the bill down, Gitmo stays open, we continue locking up the murdering bastards there and move on.
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I like it.
ReplyDelete"...we continue locking up the murdering bastards there..."
ReplyDeleteTrue patriots (as opposed to counterfeits) know there is something profoundly unamerican about locking up people for being "murdering bastards" before actually demonstrating that they are guilty of being "murdering bastards."
It's called due process. It's in the constitution. Perhaps you should read it.
The Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution reads:
“No person shall be ... deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law...”
The Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution reads:
“nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law...”
So the tens of thousands of Nazi soldiers Roosevelt locked up during WWII were entitled to due process and a trial--he deprived them of their constitutional rights?
ReplyDeleteThe United States constitution applies to US Citizens, not to enemy combantants attacking the United States. ~Bob
Bob,
ReplyDeleteAll I can say is Amen to what you said. I like it. Its right along the same lines that we don't pay our elected officials in Washington DC or at our State level unless they balance the budget or have a surplus.
They should realize that their choices should effect them to.
And I agree with you. They are enemies of the United States of America. They are not criminals or anything like that.
They are lucky they were put in Gitmo and not shot wherever they were apprehended.
I'm for it! Any way to enact this into law?
ReplyDeletePS: Make a few extra murderers as body guards to the illegal president. [wink]
Brilliant. About the only piece of legislation in the past 40 years that would hold Congress personally responsible. For anything.
ReplyDeleteOf course we know that they are all "murdering bastards" without even conducting trials. "Innocent until proven guilty" is something that he [Bob] doesn't think is worth keeping. I guess when he was in the Marines fighting for our rights, that wasn't one of them he was fighting for. That's called GOP patriotism: destroy the U.S.A. in order to save it.
ReplyDeleteIt's not true the US constitution only applies to US citizens. The supreme court has ruled on this in Boumediene v. Bush:
ReplyDelete"On June 12, 2008, the United States Supreme Court ruled, in Boumediene v. Bush, that the Military Commissions Act could not remove the right for Guantanamo captives to access the US Federal Court system. And all previous Guantanamo captives' habeas petitions were eligible to be re-instated. The judges considering the captives' habeas petitions would be considering whether the evidence used to compile the allegations the men and boys were enemy combatants justified a classification of "enemy combatant."
Well, if all court decisions were the final word, we would still be living with Dred Scott.
ReplyDeleteTwo views of the constitution here. Mine is that is should only apply to US Citizens and legal residents of the US. The other view is that every person on the planet is entitled to the protection of the US Constitution, even as they try to destroy it. If the captured terrorists at Gitmo are entitled to trials and lawyers, then FRD was the biggest destroyer of the constitution in history. After all, his administration held hundreds of thousands of Germans, Italians and Japanese POWs on US soil, without benefit of trials or lawyers. Disgraceful. Of course, giving the enemy POWs then the rights the courts and left now want to give to the terrorists would have destroyed the war effort, ensuring the fall of democracy to the statist regimes, and we’d have had a totalitarian government.
And if we extend the constitution to every person in the world, we have an obligation, for example, to provide lawyers to every person in the world who is charged with a crime. After all, it’s a constitutional right, and the constitution applies to them as well as to us.
Idiots. ~Bob
@Bob "Idiots."
ReplyDeleteThere are gradations of idiocy, Bob. See, for example,
http://hl98.blogspot.com/2007/11/intelligence-quotient-domains.html
Some of the people you refer to belong in the "Negative IQ" class, otherwise known as "negiques".